Responsibility.
Independence.
Self-confidence.
Knowing how to handle your money gives you a toehold. Understanding debt and credit scores and
interest. Having a basic knowledge of
bank accounts, mortgages, investments, and loans . Just the knowledge alone gives you a bit of
freedom to worry about other things.
Frankly, I think that setting your children loose upon the
world without this knowledge is a travesty.
Young adults should know what they’re signing when they see a rental
agreement. Or a credit card
application. They should know how to
read them and what the words mean. They
need to know what a credit report looks like, how to read it, what it says
about them, and the difference between annualcreditreport.com and
freecreditreport.com (one of my huge pet peeves).
So, in the spirit of this, here’s another thing you can put
on the list of shit that makes me a bad parent.
I have given my kids a weekly allowance since they were 8 years old with
money I did not make them earn. And here
is why.
The parenting community has a funny habit of perpetuating
fallacies that have absolutely no basis in fact, yet they accept these axioms
as gospel truth when the concept is relatively easily taught and is combined
with guaranteed social acceptance. They
tend to put an exorbitant amount of significance on the theory that understanding
the value of a dollar can only be achieved by working your fingers to the bone
for every dime that passes one’s palm.
I hereby put forth the hypothesis that this is categorically
untrue, unfounded, untested, with no factual basis in social science
whatsoever. Furthermore, I ascertain that the simple notion
of physical labor in exchange for money is nowhere near as important as lessons
in microeconomic personal finance.
When they were around 7 or 8, my boys had their own debit
card. It was a prepaid account linked to my checking account from which I transferred their allowance every Friday, a
dollar for each year of their age. When
they turned 15, they each then got their own checking and savings
accounts. They still get a dollar for
each year of their age.
But what you might not realize are the deeper lessons that
come with the 8-9 years of experience they already have in managing their own
personal finances. The questions they
ask are ones that would sound like a foreign language to most kids their
age. They know the difference between
APR and APY. They understand the basics
of a credit report and the factors that influence your score. They know the difference between mortgage
loans and credit cards, “good debt” versus revolving debt. They have experienced everything from having
their card declined because they failed to keep up with their balance, all the
way to saving up for things like iPods and Xboxes.
But the benefits don’t end there. Because, you see, they learned all of these
things by experiencing them and by asking questions. I never taught them anything in the form of a
textbook or classroom. I just enrolled
them in Life 101 and allowed them to learn from experience. And it is from those experiences that the
questions arise.
“Does your credit score affect your car insurance premiums?”
“How much is my car insurance going to be?”
“So, let me get this straight. If people pay only the minimum amount due on
their credit card, the interest can actually increase their balance each month
rather than decrease it, right?”
“What are the easiest ways to start to build my credit
score?”
“How do mortgages work?”
“How much are your bills each month?”
“How much should I have saved for emergencies?”
“What is a 401(k), mutual fund, IRA, money market account?”
These are all questions that have been asked of their own
accord for their own reasons. And none
of them are subjects that I have ever addressed in the form of a lesson or
assignment. Which, I think, is the rub.
Because of the pervasiveness of the modern educational
institution, it seems to have become a common misconception that everything a
child learns must be taught. Children
must be taught the value of money. They must
be taught discipline and self-sufficiency.
They must be taught that money is only forthcoming through household
chores that are each assigned a dollar figure.
And the fallacy here is quite obvious in generation after generation of
kids indoctrinated in this way who grow into adults who have learned to be the
absolute bare minimum person they can be in order to achieve the results they
desire. Do the least amount of work
required. Get through your day in the
quickest and easiest way possible.
Or.
Consider the alternative. Stop teaching your kids and invite them into your world. Invite them to experience it every day. Invite them to have a look at your bank accounts and bills and savings accounts and investments. And then give them the tools to do it themselves. A bank account with a little money to manipulate. Let them screw up. Let them fix it. Let them save and succeed and make smart financial decisions without your intervention. And when they do, don’t congratulate them with a condescending “atta boy” pat on the back. Explain to them the reality. That they have just accomplished something that confuses and befuddles most adults. Control over their own financial life.
Some may wonder how their offspring will ever be able to
perform hard work and associate it with earning money. They assume my technique results in little princes
who must not be bothered with menial household chores because they are too busy
reading prospectuses and running retirement simulations and counting the bucks I funnel freely into their bank account.
Scoff. And
shame. It is a typical adult’s underestimation
of a child’s ability to understand real-world concepts. The “lesson”
that jobs and hard work give you a paycheck is about as primary as the fact
that drinking a glass full of water is going to make you have to pee.
Here, I’ll help you teach them. Gather your kids and tell them to listen
up. Then, say “Hey, kids. When you grow up, you’re going to have to get
a job so you can make money.”
Done.
And now that that is out of the way, stop underestimating
your kids and let them show you what they’re made of. Let go of the assumptions based on
meaningless social conjecture and have a little faith.
My kids do plenty of chores, by the way.
Many times without ever being asked.
And many times after being poked with a cattle prod.
But "chores" and "allowances" simply have nothing to do with one another.
Except I do pay them to cut the grass. An obscene amount, actually. Because I fucking hate cutting the grass.
And on a completely unrelated note, when Sarge does the laundry, he actually folds my underwear. I know, right?!
My kids do plenty of chores, by the way.
Many times without ever being asked.
And many times after being poked with a cattle prod.
But "chores" and "allowances" simply have nothing to do with one another.
Except I do pay them to cut the grass. An obscene amount, actually. Because I fucking hate cutting the grass.
And on a completely unrelated note, when Sarge does the laundry, he actually folds my underwear. I know, right?!
Funny story. I'll try to do the short version. My Dad can't manage money, but he's the one who 'gets' it. My Mom CAN manage money, but the whole process terrifies her. When they were married, Dad went around squandering money and knowing perfectly goddamned well what he was doing, and Mom went around balancing the unbalanced checkbook and hiding money from Dad in various savings accounts that didn't have his name on them. (Wise move, actually.)
ReplyDeleteWhen I was 8, they decided the best solution would be for me to balance the finances. So they taught me how to balance the checkbook and turned me loose. And this was in the days before you could manage the sucker online and catch an overdraft before it happened. (I'm happy to say I never caused a single one.) Anyway, the incentive was that they'd get me my own checking account once learned how to do it and balanced the checkbook to a penny three times in a row.
Which meant that I was the only 8 year old ever with her own checking account in that town. I never used it and Mom eventually convinced me that the monthly fees made it a waste of my money, but I was so fucking proud of that thing.
In the meantime, Dad flipped out when I tried to put him on a budget, Mom continued hiding funds to save things right before disaster struck, and tension never improved.
But I can say from experience that I like your way.
Oh wow. What a story. I got married so young, having had a single momma with 3 daughters, she was just grateful when there was time to make dinner that didn't come from a box. My husband and I wound up figuring it out on our own through trial and error. We made some mistakes, made some incredibly smart decisions, learned to fix the mistakes, made a few more lucky decisions. I actually majored in economics in college, though I didn't graduate. I like playing with money the same way people like playing SimCity. To me, it's a game. It's fun. But more than anything, NOT having money troubles in the forefront of your mind is an incredibly peaceful feeling. And although I know most of our important lessons are best learned from trial and error, I think maybe that error could be lessened slightly if I give my kids a bit of knowledge? I hope so. That's the plan anyway.
DeleteNow only if i could apply this to my own sad state of financial affairs, le sigh.
ReplyDeleteyep...to every word.
ReplyDeleteThe hard part about falling in love unexpectedly and blending two families four years ago has been the money stuff. we're learning how to handle child support payments, judo, cheerleading, girl scouts and expensive birthdays and chirstmases, and still be in the black.
good post
Thank you. I'm trying to get back to blogging and catching up on my reading and commenting since I got my keyboard fixed. I'll tell ya, I have mad respect for folks like you and your lovely Bobina who can deal with such a monkey wrench of life as lovingly and as hard-hitting as you two seem to have tackled it. All bets are off when you take that kind of detour, and although I know you've had typical ups and downs, you two have absolutely gorgeous daughters and a love for one another that transcends paychecks and power bills. Keep it up. You guys teach the rest of us how to get back up with style when we get kicked in the gut.
DeleteAs I tried blathering on the other day when my phone so rudely lost my thoughts........
ReplyDeleteOur approach has been different, but the result the same. Our kids DO have chores for allowance, because that's how the real world works = you work = you get paid. If Hunny doesn't go to work; we don't get money and we don't eat. Besides, they live in the family and there is responsibility that goes along with being part of it {because we said so, that's why. ;)}.
I might be their mother, but I'm not their maid. :D
Because my/our job is to raise self-sufficient adults, they all know how to cook {mostly unsupervised}, and they've been doing their own laundry for forever. My 13 year old dd completely cooked meatloaf, baked potatoes and our green beans (that she helped me can) tonight for dinner. The only supervision that went into it was Hunny showing the oldest how to light the oven without blowing us all up. :lol:
They know how to save; some of them doing it more than others. My dd is constantly blowing her money on jewelry and then complaining when she doesn't have any left for something else. She did work and save the funds for her own IPod, though.
My oldest saved for pieces parts he speced and built; his first home-built computer when he was 12. After that, it's been monitors, etc etc. He's sitting on some cash; he's saving for a car even though he doesn't have a job {past mowing yards} and doesn't have a permit or license.
My gripe is that things cost money- when they break my stuff, they spend their money to replace it. They hear about it and they replace it. They may not understand the annoyance, but it makes a whole lot more sense when they have to pay for it themselves.
They understand interest rates more or less (not necessarily the details of mortgage interest rates and points and all that hoo ha). I forget how old he was, but at some point my oldest more scoffed at credit cards, saying, "That's just stupid. Why not wait a little longer and pay cash and pay less?" That led to a wonderful discussion on credit cards; credit ratings, and car insurance.
My kids regularly go shopping with me, and when it was time for my son to get new bedding that I was paying for, he evaluated his options, and selected a reasonable set. He wanted the most bang for the buck, and price and value were the most appealing qualities. The olders especially get how much it costs to feed them; they are all budgeting on a regular basis.
I think the difference, honestly, is approach. We're growing adults. We're preparing them to live in the real world, and the nature of much homeschooling (not necessarily schooling at home)is that they are actually out there, in the real world; experiencing it.
And, because we're home with them, we talk to them. You know, like real people. Not that the balance of my checkbook is their business, but they see repeatedly how it works. They see how bills get paid; now they know some of the expense in moving, too. LOL.
I always say that there is no one single approach for every person/family/child; it's the end result that's important, no matter the road taken to get there....... :D
"That's just stupid. Why not wait a little longer and pay cash and pay less?"
ReplyDeleteDon't you love it when kids see so clearly those things most adults take years to learn? That's awesome.
So what's the deal with parents being so secretive with their own bank accounts? I never understood that. I've heard other parents say that, too. That it isn't any of their kids' business. What's the deal with that? I just worry that maybe there is some reason I'm missing?
Heh, actually, I have said that to my kids. Things like paychecks and banking balances aren't things they need to be concerned with on an ongoing basis. The little girls in particular don't need to know this information because they have no sense of not telling everyone else- and what we make is nobody else's business, either. :D
ReplyDeleteMy older two- they don't need to worry about our balances.
The do need to understand that things cost money; you need to budget and save money. They absolutely do need to understand the concepts; they don't need to worry about actual dollars in OUR account{s}.
One of things in the private sector is that there are companies where it's part of the contract that wages are not talked about with other employees. {I have my own theories on why they do this, of course}. Given that our next door neighbor was the HR manager, had something slipped out, it could have actually resulted in consequences.
I have learned that if there are things you don't want your kids telling others, you'd better not tell them. ;) And honestly, chances are good it wouldn't have been "shared" accurately, but I don't even want any of that kind of discussion going on. {yes,our kids and the the neighbor kids talk about strange things}.
Now, my oldest, is one who would actually think on things and spend his own money to help out. It's totally sweet (like, he paid for his own internet this month, and I still need to pay him back), but really- we are the parents, and he doesn't need to worry about things like that.
So, that's why I land where we do in that regard.